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beaten down and they feel betrayed by government. >> so ball ryan out on the campaign trail yesterday reminded someone of that moment when candidate obama said that and he gave his rebuttal. >> you know, sometimes when the president is speaking he kind of reveals his thoughts, his little more candid moments. remember that video where he was talking to the donors in san francisco and he said, people like us in the midwest, we get bitter and we cling to our guns and our religion. well, you know what i have to say? this catholic deer hunter is guilty as charged and i'm proud of that fact. and this is-- that's the kind -- that's what problem is. >> clayton: that was paul ryan out on the campaign trail yesterday and to dave's point the major candidates are under lock and key preparing for the debat preps. and in hotels locked in with the debate preps and vice-president joe biden on the campaign trail as well and saying in his response that president obama was dealing with the economy in way and once again blamed president bush for the faulty economy that he was handed. >> alisyn: there you
to tell you the american people are engaged and if you think they want a government takeover of health care, i would respectfully submit you're not listening to them. >> so, will that experience help ryan thursday night? joining me now is presidential historian the author of the book "what does the president look like", jane, welcome. >> thanks for having me. >> clayton: what does paul ryan have to do. talking to huckabee about it. paul ryan can have a tendency to come off a little wonky and vice-president biden perhaps as a little folksy and flies off the handle with things off script. what do the two need to do to be effective. >> ryan needs to keep that momentum going and needs to explain their policies and their points of view in a very cheer, concise way, which you've heard him do in sound bites in different media interviews. biden, yes, needs to not make gaffe and make up for some of the mistakes his boss made last week, he needs to seem engaged. he needs to answer those hard questions without being defensive and so, they both have challenges going in, but it should ab really gre
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